The world is doing some crazy crap. Tunisia and Sudan have made news for unrest as has Yemen and there is concern of other nations in Africa and the middle-east having uprisings.
The big show though is happening in Egypt where once again, an entire continent is showing it's inability to handle itself.
Don't get me wrong though, this could be the beginning. This could be the time Egyptians stand up, take control of their lives and become all they can be.
Thing is, Africa isn't really the mess we over here think it is. There are 10 or 15 of the 50 or so countries on that continent are screwed up. Genocide and war are ways of life in some places but then you have Ghana which is pretty stable and Kenya which is pretty good too. South Africa also is stable.
But the nation on that continent with the strongest military, one of the world's most ancient societies, Egypt, is making them all look stupid again.
I support the protests, I even support revolution if called for. What I have a problem with is this morning's news.
President Hosni Mubarak announced he will not step down today, but will not seek reelection. I understand the protesters disappointment with this, I do. But it is what it is now.
The military said go home. You were allowed your free assembly, your voices have been heard around the world, and if you president/dictator does as he says (and with international pressure he pretty much has to), then you will get your way in seven months.
But did they turn around and go home? No. They continue to keep the nation gridlocked and shut down. There is little to no commerce in Cairo, tourism is dead for the moment, I don't even want to think about where 1 million people in the streets for this many days take a crap.
What's worse though, is that Mubarak supporters are now protesting. All would have likely been well but eventually two angry mobs met and now the citizens are fighting each other.
AP News had a photo of a man on a camel charging a man on a horse in the middle of a mob of people throwing rocks.
That image isn't all of Africa, but I think many Americans think it is. If one of that continents most stable nations degrades to that level this fast, I just don't see the world taking any of them seriously anytime soon.
The U.S., England, Iran, Turkey and Austria among others have weighed in on Mubarak publicly and behind the scenes. Those countries have to step up because Africa is eerily silent. A Google search finds little to no comment from any African leader.
I'm not saying the need to intervene, but their neighbor is a major economic player over there and what happens in Egypt will effect the rest of them. They can't just sit there like they're doing now.
But as usual, where ever problems strike, the world looks west to U.S. for some kind of leadership. On the Today show this morning they even showed an Egyptian protester with an Obama-esque sign that said "Yes we can, too."
I hope we don't need to bother. The Egyptians, like all people, need to show restraint equal to their recent enthusiasm and take control of their own destiny without throwing rocks like children.
I can understand why the protesters would be so leery about disbanding. John, you must keep in mind that all of these protesters have spent a large portion of their lives (if not their entire lives) living under tyranny. Their constitutional rights have been suspended since 1967. Their elections are probably rigged; censorship is state-sponsored; police brutality fails to be reprimanded; and people are being imprisoned without charge or trial.
ReplyDeleteI understand why they want immediate change. After all, it is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility that Mubarak could recant his prior statement and decide to run for "re-election." Or, even if he does keep to his word, there is still no guarantee that:
A) Mubarak's replacement will be democratically elected through a fair election.
B) Mubarak or his successor will work to undue the violations on civil rights.
Furthermore, if Mubarak or his successor decided to change nothing, than you'd better believe they would try a lot harder to prevent subsequent protests. Anti-government protest leaders will suddenly start to "disappear." There would be a greater crackdown (or atleast surveillance) of internet use as well as other forms of mass communication. Finally, you can bet, just as long as the whole world isn't watching, that any subsequent protests that could be formed would be suppressed with far greater violence than what is happening now.
So, to sum up, the protesters should not disband because:
A)They have no guarantee any real change is coming.
B) It may prove to be significantly more difficult for large-scale protests to organize themselves in the future.
I really hope I am reading you wrong. Please, please, please tell me my faculties have failed me in this regard. For if not, I am truly disgusted. Did you really just say that the protesters should stop and go home because this whole incident is bad PR for the continent of Africa? NO! The Egyptians have every right to fight for their liberty. Granted, peaceful protests are typically more effective, especially when the world media is keeping a close watch. Nevertheless, what you've said is completely demeaning towards their justifiable effort.
dude, this is how you do things in third world countries
ReplyDeleteyou riot untill they guy is gone
not riot till he says really really nicely he will leave, fuck that
hey egyptians
burn shit untill your guy is boss
if the other people elect the wrong guy, keep buring shit till they get it right
Alex managed to essentially say what I said, only in a far more condensed and elegant manner.
ReplyDeleteThank god for Alex.
They had and have every right to protest, but if they're going to act like they are acting now, what will they gain?
ReplyDeleteThey will become rulers of a destroyed nation if this keeps up. They want him out now they have one option...total revolt.
Looting and setting people's apartments on fire is not just bad PR, it's bad form.
I guess I just had a little more faith in Egypt. I didn't realize they were truly just another third-world nation. If that's what they are, then this is what I should expect.
Also, the protesters have no idea what's going on. There are so many factions involved. They'll get the current guy out but they don't even really know who they want in.
The protests were impressive, courageous even. Now it's just a pathetically weak street gang battle.
Meh, I don't really blame the egyptians for rioting (plus keep in mind that some of the violence is likely coming from police and govt agents). Unless you're someone like Gandhi or MLK, and you are super devoted to non-violence, when hit with a billy club, you might react by hitting back. And when shot at several times with rubber bullets (or worse) you may want to do more than just hit back.
ReplyDeleteRevolutions usually aren't very neat and tidy (like ours) and democracy of any sort is usually very, very ugly.
I don't disagree with any of that, I'm just saying there's no sense sacking Rome completely if you intend to live there afterwards.
ReplyDeleteRevolution the plan? Cool. Get something bigger than rocks and go after the army, not your fellow citizen.
Of course if the Republican and Democratic National Conventions were held in the same city on the same day, I guess we'd probably have us some unrest too. I hope we wouldn't burn the capital to the ground though.
Idk, that's not really the same situation that I've heard about, but I may be wrong.
ReplyDeleteI trust the protesters never meant to cause so much violence, though I'm sure their intentions were never quite as peaceful as Gandhi's or MLK's. Still, it is what it is, and the repercussions for going home could be far worse than a destroyed city...or two, or three...
ReplyDeleteRemember, "burn shit untill your guy is boss
if the other people elect the wrong guy, keep buring shit till they get it right " -Emperor Sullobog I
I suppose I changed my mind here to a degree.
ReplyDeleteThe violence was more reactionary than anything and when one guy throws a rock, it makes sense that others threw back.
Plus it seems they're going to get their way so kudos to them.